Helping People in a Hurting World ft. Dr. Steve Paxton

Helping People in a Hurting World ft. Dr. Steve Paxton – Show Transcript

Dr. Mark Sherwood 0:00
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All right, of course, we’re back. And it’s going to be another exciting episode. And before I get going in and just introduce our guest today, I want you to go to Sherwood TV and subscribe the newsletters, find out what who’s coming next. Why do you want to do that because everybody wants free stuff, man. So hook in, get free stuff. We want to bless you help you and encourage you along the lines to replace what might be missing in your own health care. Without further ado, our guest today is Dr. Steve Paxton. A few weeks ago, Dr. Steve walked into my office and wanted to talk. And I thought Here we go again, what am I getting. But I met a man who has an incredible story. And it’s so impressed me, his story, his passion, his vigor, and his skill and expertise for what he does now. Then I thought it appropriate to bring him on our podcast to in turn inspire you. So Steve, man, thank you for joining me, I

Dr. Steve Paxton 1:12
appreciate it. Thanks, Mark, for having me. This is awesome to be a part of this and really appreciate what you do and making this possible for all of us to share stories and just to be out there with people. And I hope to hear a lot of feedback.

Dr. Mark Sherwood 1:26
Oh, yeah, we’ll do we’ll do well with that. And, you know, just to kind of remind us where we all were, you know, I remember, you know, us getting a permit for the very first time really, you walked him off that never met you before. And you know, you’re a chiropractor, and but your story is unique. You know, you you’ve been on this planet a few decades, man, right? And I’m 60 here coming in May. And I just got out of school. I’m like, what, what are you talking about? Man? So you got to share that. I mean, you you. That’s a story. So I want to hear that. What what Where did that come from? What more would you go? Where are you been background?

Dr. Steve Paxton 2:03
I appreciate it, Mark. Yeah, um, long time ago, I grew up. My father was a pastor. And I thought I go into the ministry. But that was just one of those things that wasn’t really my direct calling to be a part of that. And got interested in computers and things. And I ended up working with Hewlett Packard for 23 years, all kinds of positions there, sales, marketing, support, training, all kinds of things, and very technical and enjoy that a lot. Because I really enjoyed working with people. And I started out in a sales office. So I was working with people helping them solve problems there. And along the way, after my father, my father passed away when I was 11. And my mom remarried, and that actually opened the doors, you know, the way God works in our life is pretty incredible. We look back, and we can see every step along the way that he’s preparing us for whatever’s coming next. But we don’t know what’s next. It’s always kind of an unknown out there. But as life has gone along, and a lot of these stories will come out. You begin to trust him more and more that he’s got it all in his hands. And I don’t know where I’m going. But I know that it’s good because he wants it to be good that way for us. So my father passed, but my mom remarried that sent us to Texas and Texas is a land of opportunity, you might say it changed my life in a number of different ways. Really enjoyed it. Got to work for HP and learn so much that he provided for us. throughout that time, it was just a wonderful experience. And then, as well, one of the key parts I wanted to bring up was my stepfather was quite was also a pastor but he was much more in using his hands skilled craftsmen and a lot of different ways. And so I learned a lot of skills that way that I needed future in life, but I was learning how to swing a hammer cutters board and do all those things, which was a lot of fun. But didn’t know how that I’ve used that in the future. But those are skills I started learning. After that. My career with hp took us from Dallas to Colorado, and had a great time for 20 of those 23 years. And those last few years were tough. A lot of layoffs and things that just wore on you and it’s like you had to lay your friends off you saw others being laid off. And it was just it was a tough time and so I I couldn’t volunteer, but I told my boss when I knew this next round of layoffs was coming It’s okay to let me go. And sure enough he got laid off at that point in time and but that opened up an opportunity. My took six months to relax and try to figure out well, God, where do you want me to be next? And that was a good it was a good time. Just to kind of sit back and say, what’s the next step for me? I’m a, I don’t know, I had thought I go to work for HP I’d worked 30 years I retire, you know, and do whatever. But as time went along, it became more and more evident that that’s not what God had in store for me that, really, there’s not a lot of retirement in the Bible. And it’s, it’s pretty much how do I finish well, and give me 23 years of HP, I was still pretty young, so only about 45 at that time, so a lot of life ahead of me. And so I would a door open wide up for me at the church we were attending to become the executive pastor there. So all that skill that he had trained me over the years of how to work on things, how to run a business, how to manage people, and those kinds of things. Were all then applied there at the church. And so, to me, it was kind of a dream job we get to work with people get to serve, I was also what’s called connection pastors. So I was always helped working with people and helping them to get connected into our church and just love that I would go in Sunday morning, being a little bit tired, but just energized by seeing all the people and getting to connect with them. So that was, you know, in through that time, I was getting closer to people working with people and just loved solving problems. But just, you know, it was from shifting from solving technical problems to working with people to help them. And again, I thought I was going to be there forever. And I was there for about, oh, nine and a half years. And at about eight and a half years, there was just these little nudges that were saying, I’m not through with you yet. It’s, there’s, there’s more to life than this, and I want you to do something else. And at first, I was like, No way, you

know, what am I going to do? And I’m having too much fun here. Why would I want to change, but it kept coming. Little little words, that would be said, a little change in the direction of where the church was. And it was nothing bad. It was always an encouragement, it was just one of those things that we’re saying it’s time to make a change. And so again, it was like, Well, what am I going to do? And I’ve thought a lot about all the different things that I was skilled in, per se, and none of it was exciting to do as a job. And about 12 years before that I had started going to chiropractor. My background was that chiropractors were quacks. I mean, the American Medical Association, I guess, I don’t know if I can say that or not. But you can, you can. They have done a good job of with their committee on quackery of telling everybody how bad chiropractic care was. But through my years at the church, met a lot of people that use chiropractors, we had an excellent chiropractor in the church, and just begin seeing him and seeing the beauty of how chiropractic care worked, and just loved how people responded to it, just all the pluses of that. So as I was pondering on what to do, literally one day, I don’t know where that thought came to mind. What about becoming a chiropractor? And it’s like, it’s crazy, but why not? So I started talking to other folks that I trusted and asking if that was the right path for me or not. And I everybody seemed to think that would be a good and good role for me. And, you know, one aspect while I was there at the church that always said, I pondered on was, as I was growing up. And we think about the future of beyond this world and going to heaven being a part of that. It’s, it always sounded kind of boring. It’s like, well, what, what could it be like? And as I pondered on that a lot, I began to think that if we understand scripture correctly, we’ll have a new body kind of restored body, and a lot of these aches and pains we’re dealing with today will go away. At least that’s the hope. But our minds not going to be perfect. We’re not going to become gods per se. We’re going to still be not knowing everything at that point. So what would what brings joy to us today is people interaction and learning something new. So that thought had been set into my mind. And so when I thought about it, it’s like, well, I think I’ll spend eternity learning growing and becoming better all along, you know, a little bit by little bit. So when it came to chiropractic, and that choice of you really want to go back to school, I never wanted to go back to school. And, but with that thought in mind, it’s like, well, why not? I get to learn more. I get to grow, I get to continue to develop some skills that way. And I think again, looking back, I was preparing me all along that way. So I headed out, went to Davenport for Iowa for Palmer, chiropractic college and had a great time. It was a tough time at school, very, very intense schooling, but God provided and I excelled at it and have a good time. And, you know, as I was going through school, I was always looking to, I’m getting ready to go help people. But the thing that struck me is along the way, was What about now, you know, God didn’t put me at that school with all these people, a lot of them have my age, well, a lot less than half my age, a lot of what were my kids age or younger. And but he didn’t put me there for just to go through school. And so there was some good interactions. It was it was fun. Getting to know the students connecting with them being able to pour into their lives at that time. And again, God’s providing all along, he’s preparing and providing. So that was a lot of fun. And then, as I was preparing, well, there’s a lot to that story as far as going through school and preparing to come out and how this event took place. How I even got to this point.

As I started school there, I had the traditional chiropractic model, which is excellent. It’s worked extremely well for a long time. And as we were studying, we began to study a lot more about what’s called fascia. fascia is that connective tissue, the tissue right underneath your arm, and your honor that right underneath your skin. But it also forms around muscles and around your bones. It’s everywhere. Basically, it’s all interconnected. And the example I give to people is you could take a few ever bought a roasted chicken, and you peel back the skin and you see this kind of fibrous stuff, and you go to the meat and you’re starting to pull that off. Well, that’s fascia that’s, that’s the function around things and interconnects the whole body. And it made a lot of it really resonated with me made a lot of sense that if a bones out of place, why is it out of place? And something is pulling it out of place and causing it to happen. And so why couldn’t that be the fascia system that we used to just ignore, and now we’re looking at it as the biggest organ in our body and maybe the most valuable part of our body to some degree. And so that resonated with me. And I began to learn about something called cueists m three, and how that works with the fascia to bring the body up right when your posture begins to degrade. And as I got involved in that group, which made a whole lot of sense, and that’s the style that I use today. That’s how I met Dr. Matt, Dr. Matt hunt, who I’m with Hudson Spinal Care, which is an interesting story, because I looked at where I had family, different parts of the US and said, Okay, well, where are chiropractors that use this particular technique, and was someone that I would like to work with. And I had met Matt, and had a great time with him when we had connected at some of the conferences. So I sent him an email, said, Hey, have you ever considered an associate or preceptorship? And that kind of thing? And he said, funny, you should ask. I was thinking about you. And yeah, so it’s just like, out of the blue, that all came together. And we we connected in different ways through the club, at school and through the conferences. And then so that all came together for me to be an intern under him and do my preceptorship there. But as time was going along, it was he was saying, Well, I’m not sure if, at this time, it’s really best for me to add an associate. So it’s like well, oh, I mean, I had a great experience here. As I said earlier, as I look back, back, God’s gonna kick take care of it. That’s, that’s fine. It’s a path. It’s part of the steps of me getting ready to go someplace else. And so I interviewed with another group that was actually down in Texas. And they have something where they put you on deck, they basically hire you, but they don’t place you until they have an opening. So they’re 200 locations and you get placed as they have a need. So you get on deck and wait. Well, what hit but COVID hit Oh, so that delayed thing. So I was all ready to go work for them. We were planning that and COVID hit and just delayed everything for quite a while. But in God’s perfect timing that allowed us to get our home ready to sell in Iowa to get done with that we moved out We went down over to Colorado where my daughter had just had our first grandson. So that was exciting. Congratulations. Yeah, he’s quite a kid. We love it. And but we were able to spend like two and a half months with them that I would have never had the opportunity to do had I gone straight into a job and be working again. And so that that was a huge blessing. And then, as I’m searching around kind of seeing, well, where do you want me? God? Where do you Where do you want me to go? It was still a possibility to go to this group in Texas. But out of the seriously out of the blue, Dr. Hunt calls up and said, Hey, what are you interested in being associated Sto. And we jumped on it. What? That led us to come here and led me to walk into your office. Yeah, get to meet you. And that’s just, it’s just phenomenal. So it’s been a been quite a trip.

Dr. Mark Sherwood 15:54
Steve, when you look at all that. I mean, I you know, I’m just utterly amazed at the journey, because it seems like there’s a lot of places where people can relate is places where I’m here, but I don’t know where I’m going next, like places of uncertainty. And I think, especially with the history of COVID, there’s a lot of uncertainty that has sort of blossomed in the world in various circumstances. How did you deal with all that? I mean, seriously, I mean, I know the canned answer is, you know, I trusted God, I get that. Yeah, but take us through, maybe they the struggled with that, you know, like maybe some of the books, I don’t know, maybe take us through one of those issues, because I know we all have them, and we’re just being transparent here. So yeah, what how did you process that? And finally, reconcile that, you know, what, God does have something for me?

Dr. Steve Paxton 16:50
Yeah, yeah. You know, combination of things, I guess, I mean, Scripture tells us to be content wherever we’re at. And I could look around and just each day, instead of confidence that that was, it was going to come together, you know, and I didn’t know where it was going to come together. But this world is just crazy, there’s always going to be problems. And if I focus on all the problems, then I can, I can lose, lose focus. I mean, I, I get depressed and down. And it just weighs me down that way. And yeah, I had moments of that is like, well, where are we going to go, I just spent all this time. But I felt that God doesn’t take me through chiropractic school for no reason. And that doesn’t guarantee that I’m going to become a chiropractor. But I’m going to use that somehow. And so it was a, it was just that balance of saying, enjoy the moment that the time that you have, and keep your focus on what you have control over. And not the things that are out of my control codes totally out of my control, I have no way to impact that really, other than impact those around me. And to be honest, my wife struggled a little bit more than I did. And so that was some very good time that we had together. And I was able to focus on her and work with her through some of this process. And it just reminded me daily that this was the right thing. And I grounded myself, I got connected with a small group of guys that were studying scripture and just being together with other people makes a difference. other like minded people that have that same faith that can encourage each other iron sharpens iron, we need that. We need that encouragement. And so that that was that was really key was taking it day by day focusing on the things that I could control and engaging and not backing out, not closing in and isolating myself with being connected with people. However way I could. Sometimes it was Zune, and sometimes it was in person, but how do I stay connected with people and keep my focus?

Dr. Mark Sherwood 19:12
And there’s enough similar is it being a pastor? And now a chiropractor, you find parallels? And if so, why? And what are they? Yeah, yeah,

Dr. Steve Paxton 19:23
the The nice thing about where I’m at now, we don’t separate our faith out. We don’t bring it in, you know, it’s not just shoved in people’s faces, but it’s part of our conviction that God made the body. You may have heard the statement above, down inside out that meanings that got above build, put inside of us, who we are and our living body and it was meant from the inside out to perform and function and heal itself. God created that and It’s you’re gonna have to replay redo the question.

Dr. Mark Sherwood 20:07
Yeah, I was asking, you know, the similarities.

Dr. Steve Paxton 20:10
Yeah. Yeah. So I see in our practice, yeah, yeah. So I see at church, seeing the the person and working with the individual and providing a healing touch in different ways. Because when in touch is so important, yeah, when we could come up to someone and pray with them, and put a hand on them, and pray with them right there and sit and touch their lives or simply just a smile, would bring life to a person. And in chiropractic care, I get to touch people in a way that helps release their nervous system to that they can function better. So when I come up and work with someone, you know, there’s a calming effect by being able to touch them in an appropriate way. My issue? Yes, but yeah, I mean, we’re, we’re touching in being able to bring about that comfort and being able to smile. I mean, even through the mask. Somebody said the other day, I can at least see your smile through the mask. Yeah. You know. So that’s a that’s a good thing. But yeah, there’s definitely parallels of hurting people that need a touch, a care, a good word of encouragement. I look at chiropractic as, as we’re in the business of hope. Well, as a pastor, we were in the business of hope. They’re slightly different in the sense that hope and eternity hoping in God, but we’re in the business of people coming up to us and saying, You’re my last resort, and being able to give them hope. And it comes from because of my faith in God, that I can give that hope.

Dr. Mark Sherwood 21:52
Steve, when you were in school, you went back to school, and obviously in your, your 50s. There, and you’re dealing with people, students that are different maturity levels. Talk about a kind of a two pronged question. First part, how challenging was that for you? Going back to school, that amount of time, and then perhaps, maybe an opportunity or a testimonial on and how you were able to impact some others live that was younger than you going through the same thing you’re going through, but you were a different time in? In your maturity? Yeah.

Dr. Steve Paxton 22:26
No, there was many a day I would walk into the school facing a major exam of some nature. And it’s getting down a little bit and worried about it. And then I said, You know, I get to do this, I don’t have to, I can walk away today, I get to do this. So enjoy the moment, the best I could. And yeah, I was. So pretty stressful times getting through all the exams, and so forth, and the board exams and so forth, that were really very intense. But because I felt like I get to do this, and I had that goal, at the end of being able to help people of getting through this and doing the best I could, it’s it was just one day at a time. And it worked very well. But along the way, I, there’s one guy in particular that we we really connected Well, he was struggling at first of whether he should be there, what should work worse, what’s his future, like, and so forth. And just a good kid, but just struggling. And through the months and years, we got to be really good friends and connect a lot and had a lot of good talks and conversations about God in our life and just that he’s here, there, there’s a reason there and just the reason we connected was it was encouraging me and encouraging him and how could we help each other that way? At the end, when our graduation his mom and grandmother came up and gave me a hug and said thank you for for the connection that we had made. And it was pretty special just to hear those words and and I and I you know, I hope for him and hope that he’ll continue to do well we stay a little connected but after graduation yells run to the winds, but it’s there, but that was there was several, but that’s the most special one for me. So powerful steep

Dr. Mark Sherwood 24:25
talk about q s m three. You know, people may have not heard of that before. I have but for our list or if you’re like what is that there’s multiple styles of chiropractic but yeah, specifically what is q SM three? Why is it different and what’s been your experience of that? Yeah.

Dr. Steve Paxton 24:43
Well, q SM three stands for quantum spinal mechanics, three dimensional. They came out of most of the doctors that practice it not all but most of them have a nuclear background, which Nuka yet another thing people may not know that much about but they Basically, new COVID focuses on the top vertebrates, the Atlas, the C one up here at the very top right under the skull in positioning that and manipulating that so that it’s positioned properly. Well, a doctor out of Atlanta, Dr. Russell Freedman was a nukus, board certified new conductor that just kind of a Tinker, you know, it wasn’t things were quite good enough for him. And that’s what really gives him a lot of power and a lot of strength is, how do I make it better? How do I continue to learn? How do I grow, which that also resonates with me, I want to, I want to continue to do that and figure this out. But he looked at it and said, we’re primarily looking at this thing in two dimensions. And we really need to be looking at three dimensions, thus the three of us and three, and what’s really happening with the body, are we really looking at a bone out of place? Or is it something more global. And so as he looks at a person, he sees more of a global breakdown in a person than simply a bone out of place, which is excellent techniques that have helped a lot of people. So I it’s just, this is kind of a step forward, as we began to look at the fascia and how it interacts in the body, we began to look at another level of chiropractic care. So if one of the ways I like to look at it is our body is kind of like a coke can. It has a lot of integrity, when it’s in perfect shape. And you can push down on a coke can and it’ll hold its its position. Its its tensegrity as its it would be called Navy, but it holds its integrity there. But along the way, you can put a little Nick’s in that can which is like traumas in our life, they can be major, they can be minor, but they put few Nicks in there and it still holds up but it’s starting to weaken a little bit. Once that final little Nic goes in the can not only crushes down, but it spirals down is gravity by itself. No problem with the Khans hole. But as it gets to that point, then it just pushes down. Gravity is a constant on our body all the time. So when we’re upright, and spines align, everything is good. Our postural muscles, the ones that are working all the time, hold us up just fine.

Well, as life impacts us, we start to break down a little bit, we’ll get a low shoulder, a low hip will start to lean a little bit. We look at how much weight is on each feet, we put you on two scales, and we kind of see which way you’re going that direction. Once we break down enough and our body is in a weakened state, then we start to twist just like that coke in the weight of gravity. No longer can is can we hold it up, it applies on us and we start to twist down. So we see that in Hewison through we look at the body, we look at how it’s twisting, we look at how it’s breaking down. And our goal is not is to bring that back up, get the twist out, get our body aligned and backup as straight as as our body can support. So we go in and kind of in the process along the way as our body adapts. I mean, we have people come in with terrible looking postures and necks you wouldn’t believe how straight or how, you know, whatever, they’re they’re all over the map. And they may be just fine. Because the body is adapted so well. But at some point, pain starts to happen. Because if I’m leaning off to the side, because of some trauma that’s caused me to lean that direction, because our body is adapting to pain. So when we get hurt, the body is moving saying I don’t want that pain. So I’m going to move away from it. But the muscles on the other side are screaming back there, I’m opening up with all I can. And it’s and they’re those muscles are not our postural muscles, they’re not supposed to be firing all the time. So we start to have pain either from those holding up, or the ones that are getting compressed down here, or the nerves that are getting too compressed on one side, whatever it may be. And so by getting that up and aligned, we can allow that to relax the things to falling back in place. And amazing things have happened. We’ve seen I had a lady, this was back at school, and she was leaning off to the right quite a bit. And she had TMJ. And TMJ can be for a lot of different reasons. So they had tried quite a few other techniques there at the school and our in our clinic. And nothing had really resolved that. And we came in I did a one single adjustment with USM three, and our TMJ pain went away because it was shaded with that muscle tension over there. And then we continue to care for to keep it from coming back. Of course. And that doesn’t happen all the time. They’ll get me wrong. I mean, we’re not out there, solving individual problems. All I worked on was getting this body up Write get the structure proper, and the function will follow. You know, it’s and so that in many other over the months, I’ve seen so many amazing things come up. And it’s just, it’s just exciting. And so I just fell in love with qm three and the guys that do it and it’s been, it’s been really good, really good.

Dr. Mark Sherwood 30:19
Well, I tell you, you know, it’s fascinating. And we’ve had, you know, your, your partner in crime there, Dr. Matt on the podcast before as well. And certainly, at the time of our broadcast here, which I have an appointment there. So time this goes out, I will be a veteran of your care, then I will be a testimonial as well. So I thank you in advance for that. And even in hindsight, so those of you who are listening that that mess with your head. So figure that one out, right. As we’re closing up with time, Steve, you know, there’s people out there that, you know, you there’s so much inspiration, and so much hope in not just what you do, but your story and the way you broadcast that giving God the glory and the credit through it. I mean, there’s so many little points of contact there that points of relation that we can all grab onto. But with that said, there’s people out there right now that that are let’s say they’re looking for hope. And all this let you go with that. What do you got to say to them right now, they’re they’re looking for hopes, the what is the past and everything? Yeah.

Dr. Steve Paxton 31:41
Well, first off, I think I go back to what I said earlier, when we focus on the things that we have somewhat control over, and not on those that are totally out of our control, we can begin to center ourselves and feel like we’re being more productive, that we’re moving forward and utilizing the blessings and the skills that God’s given us. I see, it all comes back to my faith, as far as hope goes, I mean, it just grounded in that, that this world is only a temporary thing. I can’t put my faith in this world, or in a government or an election or any of those things, because those are driven by man in a fallen world. My hope comes from the fact that I know my Creator, that I have my faith there that he’s made me wonderfully and beautifully. And I want to give that opportunity to others that are hurting, because when you’re hurting, it’s like when you’re focused on something that is out of your control, you can get down and depressed, if you’re hurting in any way, you’re focused on that. And it’s hard to get out of that. And you just struggle with the stress of that in your life, and you become irritable, and just, it can be hard to sleep hard to function hard to do anything. So I want to be able to give people hope that they can restore their life, to a point where they can actually enjoy the life that we have now. And that comes multiple fold. It’s it’s thoughts, traumas, toxins is what was beat into us at school and, and the thoughts is, is hope that, you know, both of us can give in our our place where we can encourage people that there’s, we can help them move forward, we can provide some relief to where they’re at. But ultimately, it’s God who does the healing, we don’t do the healing. God does the healing. And it’s we’re just freeing it to make it easier to make it happen. In the best, we know how that toxins, you guys handle that extremely well. And just work on that. So that’s where we the partnership is so awesome in that respect, and the traumas that we have in everyday life. That’s what breaks us down gets us into that crunch position. We want to release that and make that happen. So I want to give people that that hope that says there is something better. It’s not let’s let’s get our focus on with what’s also bad. And that was the other thing 2020 brought us so many things to focus on negatively. But I look back on 2020. And yeah, there was we’ve talked about several things. Yeah, that didn’t get the job. When I thought I was going to this didn’t happen. That didn’t happen. But I got to spend time with a grandchild. I got to spend time with my wife, I got to graduate. I got to start with Dr. Hunt. I’m having a great you know, it’s it’s when we focus on things that we don’t like it drags us down. So I guess the final thing I would kind of leave with maybe is I think about my relationship with my wife. We’ve been married for 37, almost 38 years now. And along the way I could have focused on the things that I didn’t like about her. But I chose to focus on the things that I loved about And the reason we got married. And that’s and that makes it special, it not only helps to focus on the good things, but it’s made me come to appreciate many of the things that I initially didn’t like, because I focused on how much I love her. And I see that in every relationship that we have, we can focus on the things we dislike about somebody, or we can focus on the things we do like about somebody. And when we focus on the negative, it drags us down, and everybody else with us, when we focus on the positive, that can lift us up and give us there is hope for the future. God did create us in a positive way. And yeah, there’s negative things out there. And there’s people hurting, no question. We need to help everybody that we can. But God’s walking through this life with us. And he’s right there. If we just count on him.

Dr. Mark Sherwood 35:53
You can’t go wrong. Well said, there’s nothing that I could add to that to make it any better. Just let that sit there and marinate. Dr. Steve Paxton, hot Spinal Care, Tulsa, Oklahoma, we’ll make sure we put the link to the practice where you can go see Dr. Steve and Dr. Matt. Just really appreciate you sir. Thank you for sharing your story, your life and thank you really for being a part of our lives and we get the honor and blessing of being able to call your friend and so we we really consider that with high regard. So thank you so much for joining us today on healthcare is missing link.

Dr. Steve Paxton 36:32
Well, thank you and the same respect I just cherish getting to know you guys. It’s been an awesome adventure and it’s all part of the journey. It’s all part of the journey. The people in our lives are so important. We got to appreciate it.

Dr. Mark Sherwood 36:45
And the journey continues late Absolutely. With all of us together, share the Word share the wealth, share the whole become a hope dealer. Dr. Michelle on us many times the gate via hope dealer. Go to share with TV subscribe, you’ll find out who’s coming up next, what’s coming next newsletter, etc. Again, you can see other interviews like Dr. Steve on our podcasts etc. And make sure to not let anything steal your health. It doesn’t have to. You deserve the best. Be the best live the best and have some hope. We’ll see you next time on healthcare is missing link. Bye for now.

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